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unfortunately

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most americans believe in at least one

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or more conspiracies for example 88

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million americans believe that 9 11

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was an inside job in fact shortly after

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9 11 and

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still to this day half of all new

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yorkers still think

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911 was a inside job go figure

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and they vote now the granddaddy of all

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conspiracies is of course the kennedy

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assassination as in john f kennedy's

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assassination

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in dallas texas in november of 1963.

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160 million americans

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over half the population believe that

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kennedy was killed

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by someone other than oswald or oswald

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plus someone else

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66 million believe in the cosmic

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watergate or the roswell ufo crash the

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government has something to hide about

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ufos and is still doing it

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22 million believe in fake moon landings

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we never went to the moon

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go figure 88 million people believe in

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what's called the illuminati that is a

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handful of guys

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maybe a woman or two who knows ask the

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illuminati who control everything in

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this world

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well they're doing a lousy job aren't

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they and then 63 million americans as

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many of them

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who knows now because the polls are all

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over the map on this because of the

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pandemic

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they believe that vaccines cause autism

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and remember folks when people believe

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like this they also vote they make

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important decisions in life

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and if you believe in the wrong

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conspiracies and that affects or

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impacts your decision-making you can be

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deadly or dangerous to you

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your family and your fellow human beings

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it's kind of obvious

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not only is widespread belief in

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conspiracies

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we're talking with the capital c-o-n

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here like khan it just cannot be true

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it's an outright lie

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it's manipulation it's nothing positive

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in addition to beliefs in at least one

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conspiracy

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at an all-time high things have become

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so polarized and predictable

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that you can even write an algorithm and

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most likely be able to map

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a person's political party or other

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similar identity

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type entities to what conspiracy they

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believe in

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for example a yougov poll shows that 62

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of all democrats believe that the us

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government is hiding something about

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ufos

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and within that 62 percent they believe

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in things like the roswell ufo crash

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of 1947 the mj-12 hoax and so on

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by contrast 23 percent of republicans

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believe in the cosmic watergate versus

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again 62

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for democrats whereas only 15 percent

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of independents believe in the so-called

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cosmic watergate

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so again democrats are way out there in

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the cosmic watergate cosmic left field

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while complaining about the far right

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and the religious nut extremists

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that would be the republicans but only

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23 percent of them by

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the idea of a cosmic watergate the most

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same group seems to be the independents

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they seem to demand things called proof

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and evidence

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and they're about 15 percent of them

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this stuff so good for them but the

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scariest thing about all of these folks

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these numbers is that these people vote

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imagine that now we must admit that

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there are certainly times where belief

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in conspiracy seems

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wholly justified for example if you look

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81 percent again and today about 61

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percent of all americans

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well again because of what was happening

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in the world at that time

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there was a house select committee on

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assassinations who later concluded there

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had been

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a conspiracy even though they were wrong

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they blamed the mafia as the most likely

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suspect again a complete farce

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of an inquiry in many areas meaning they

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blew the final verdict

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for history destroyed their own

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credibility when their conclusions were

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peer reviewed especially about the bogus

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analysis evidence in that assassination

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based on fantasy not fact

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cosmic watergate 51 percent of

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the us is hiding something

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in fact it destroys the idea that you

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worshiping imaginary entities

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in the show so both sides have problems

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they play games so how does one deal

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okay let's see what is behind door

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and what we're going to do is start with

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bob kiviats lawsuit now people will

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mr caveat he is a guest here via this

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statement he is authorized to share with

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updates will be provided as soon as the

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and this is the latest info and this

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he's talked about it anyway i encourage

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as a lot of people know i have an

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autobiography coming out called what i

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this is the cover of it it's volume one

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the first x number of decades of my life

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27 countries and as you can see here

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near the bottom of the book

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it says author of in russia's orbit

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why intelligence spied on trump

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covid pandemic since i was impacted

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this book project it's dead

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i'm happy to report that his conclusions

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in that yes trump was spied on when you

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monitor and you survey

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somebody and you see what they're doing

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that's spying on them it's surveying

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but this book is not going to come out

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because it's irrelevant now

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thanks to the virus and the book

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concluded

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that the rationalization and

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justification for spying on trump

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was valid because of his past and who he

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made a point to associate with not

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coincidentally

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that doesn't mean all the evidence

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against him was valid but

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the overall evidence was valid and it

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concludes there was

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probable cause justification to spy on

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him

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that's my conclusion so as the virus

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torpedoed that book

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what have i replaced it with well as i

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announced a couple of months ago

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i've replaced it with a book an

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explosive expose book

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called covid cover-up what the chinese

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communist

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party is hiding and that's exactly what

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it does

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it exposes what they are hiding what

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they don't want you to know and we'll

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come back to that

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a little bit later in the show in the

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meantime let's talk real quickly

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about the third update because this one

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has the interest of a lot of people and

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this is going to take a while to get

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through

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but we hope it'll come to conclusion

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finally

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next year after also being delayed and

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impacted

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okay here's update number three the ttsa

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and sec investigation specifically the

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ttsa

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fraud investigation this is now door

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number two to make a long story short

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as we all know the new york times a

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couple of years ago ran a

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cover story which gained them a lot of

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click-throughs

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and it talked about a top-secret

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pentagon program to investigate ufos

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which is rather curious because there's

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nothing about this program that

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is really credible and let's go ahead

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and discuss some issues here

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again on december 16 2017 the new york

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times published a shocking story called

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glowing auras and black money

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the pentagon's mysterious ufo program

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now that's rather interesting because if

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the pentagon has a secret ufo

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program and they have a captured flying

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saucer what are they investigating what

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they already have

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so this was written by three journalists

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helen cooper blumenthal and leslie keane

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who is a kind of a new age believer she

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believes in the paranormal

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and they expose the stunning news that

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the defense intelligence agency

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ran a black budget operation called atip

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now to understand the story we have to

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go back

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and caveat it with this very important

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point here

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once upon a time there was a very

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powerful man in the u.s government he

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was even senate majority leader

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his name was harry reid and he

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represented of course the

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state of nevada now one day

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a wealthy billionaire friend and

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campaign donor of his robert bigelow

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sat down with then senate majority

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leader harry reid

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now bigelow is a real estate bogle who

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owns the hotel chain

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budgets suites and numerous properties

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he also owns

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bigelow aerospace now by the time these

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two men finished their brainstorm

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discussions

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they had agreed on two things not only

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did ufos need further studying using

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taxpayer money

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but so did the overall paranormal

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phenomenon itself

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imagine that a donor and your senator

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the head of the senate agreeing to fund

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the paranormal in ufos

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that's because skinwalker ranch in utah

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not to be confused with george lucas's

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skywalker ranch was haunted okay

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that's why we gotta spend the taxpayer

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money

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at least that's what we were told by

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harry reid

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and people who advocate the myth of

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skinwalker ranch

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because with everything from reports of

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giant wolves that can't be killed

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even when shot at with magnum caliber

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weapons that

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what people are claiming is quote point

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blank unquote

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range wow that's some really impressive

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stuff folks

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and then of course there's the usual

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associated phenomenon according to the

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folklore

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the purportedly mysterious cattle

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mutilations

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the portholes opening up the

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mysterious lights creatures whatever you

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want to call it just

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listen to the rumors going around folks

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the tall tales and the stories

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ask george knapp he can tell you he's

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written a book hyping this

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again we got glowing oars we've got ufos

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we've got aliens we've got

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ghosts we've got a whole lot of stuff

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going on there folks

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at one single location called

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skinwalker ranch in utah

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and it's it's kind of like one-stop

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shopping for everything that's

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paranormal

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because again you've got

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interdimensional portholes

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which are enabling space-time travel all

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purportedly existing at

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skinwalker ranch and naturally every

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senator especially the head of the

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senate

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would want to use taxpayer money to

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investigate this

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since skinwalker ranch obviously

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provides one-stop shopping

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for researching the paranormal and those

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alternative realities right well that's

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what we

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like to be misled to believe

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so what then happens is a bizarre series

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of events

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unfold so lucky for harry reid and

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especially the american taxpayers

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the paranormal and ufo infested

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skinwalker ranch

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was owned by robert bigelow this is an

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amazing coincidence

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that meant that investigating the

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paranormal and those

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ufos should ideally be easier since no

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one would have to travel far

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instead the paranormal all kinds of

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paranormal stuff would be waiting for

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them at skinwalker ranch

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talk about being efficient with taxpayer

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dollars you don't even need an inspector

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general

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just show up the paranormal is there

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dudes that's what's going to happen

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see this is a lot of the stuff that the

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new york times

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left out of what they told you

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now this gets even more convoluted here

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because there were three

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senators involved in this scam harry

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reid who's still alive

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and can be held accountable daniel inoya

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who has passed away and of course ted

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stevens and ted stevens was an enemy of

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what one might call pork he was

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investigated for corruption was

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acquitted but you know so was barney

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frank

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that's not convincing anyway so after

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agreeing to bigelow's ideas harry reid

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meets in secret in a secure room in the

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capitol

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those are his words with two of his

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fellow senators republican ted stevens

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from alaska

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and world war ii combat hero and medal

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of honor recipient

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democrat senator daniel inouye of

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hawaii now stevens knows all about it

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noe knows all about it but that was it

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and that's how

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he wanted it handled that's what reed

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said

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when he's trying to tell reporters how

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he justified

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wasting taxpayer money giving millions

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of dollars for five years

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to study ufos in the paranormal to his

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donor robert bigelow

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now again stevens was the

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uh he was exposed for being the king of

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pork stevens hated government waste

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watchdogs why because he loved pork

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and he often called them a bunch of

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psychopaths saying there are idiots

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so imagine that our representatives

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folks saying that

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oversight is psychopathic

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all right so reid has no shame even

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today he says i'm not embarrassed or

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ashamed

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or sorry i got this thing going i think

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it's one of the good things i did in my

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congressional service i've done

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something that no one has done before

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wow that seems to be important to go

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where no man has gone before

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how about the concept of doing things

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right folks because the question now

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becomes

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what could any private citizen even a

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robert bigelow

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possibly tell the pentagon about aliens

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or the paranormal

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who are supposedly visiting earth that

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the us government or at least one or

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more of its agencies

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doesn't already know i mean logically if

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aliens are visiting earth and what

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people

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popularly describe as flying saucers

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surely the air force cia

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nro nasa nsa pentagon daa

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or some other three-letter agency would

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know all about this

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since it would be pilots and others who

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would see and report them sophisticated

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equipment such as radar would be

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tracking them

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obviously no private citizen not even

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one as rich as bigelow

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has such rival resources neither

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nationally

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globally nor in space to compete with

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u.s or other governments

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what reid did was give one of his

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closest friends

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millions of taxpayer payer dollars for

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no logically justifiable reason

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so operating 2007 out of the pentagon

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the pentagon put some programs together

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using this wasted taxpayer money

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and then it still gets

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worse let me easily prove this

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it's actually basic logic 101 if harry

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reid or any other senators were

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genuinely interested

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in the truth about ufos all they had to

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do was ask the air force or cia

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instead retook millions of taxpayer

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dollars gave it to his friend and donor

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to study ufos for the record

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just so you know the air force's

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national air and space intelligence

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center

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at wright-patterson air force base in

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ohio location of the infamous and

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mythical hangar 18

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and american and ufo folklore

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unfortunately

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is the official entity responsible for

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analyzing aerial and space

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based threats ufos automatically fall

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under this category

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so reit says what we decided to do it

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would be black money we wouldn't have a

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big debate on the senate floor

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they would put it in their defense

574
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appropriation bill 11 million bucks the

575
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:20,960
purpose of it was to study aerial

576
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:22,400
phenomenon the money was given the

577
00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:24,159
directive was given to the pentagon

578
00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:26,320
to put it out to bid which they did

579
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:27,679
although

580
00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:29,120
bigelow was the only bidder and of

581
00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:31,039
course his was the only one accepted

582
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:33,200
and of course in an amazing coincidence

583
00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:34,480
bigelow wins

584
00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:38,080
the bid the competitive bid and

585
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:39,760
he automatically goes from being

586
00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:42,000
one-stop shopping to now being

587
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:46,000
the only shopper hallelujah

588
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:49,360
so on january 29 2008 bigelow

589
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:51,840
formally creates bigelow aerospace

590
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:52,400
advanced

591
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:55,600
space studies bass for short which is a

592
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:56,960
sister company

593
00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:00,240
of bigelow aerospace or ba bass starts

594
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:01,520
running official

595
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:04,559
employment ads in september of 2008

596
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:07,440
and the dia not coincidentally awards

597
00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:09,440
him a contract

598
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:12,159
now here's where the fix came in putoff

599
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:13,440
and his close colleague

600
00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:15,679
dr eric davis play key roles in

601
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:17,120
providing

602
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:19,919
seeming credible smokescreen cover for

603
00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:20,799
harry reid's

604
00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:23,440
ufo project and money grab not

605
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:24,320
surprisingly

606
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:26,640
these two guys are working for surprise

607
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:27,600
bigelow

608
00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:30,400
now dr hal putoff infamous for his long

609
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:32,000
discredited yuri geller

610
00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:33,919
psychic and other remote viewing

611
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:36,000
experimental debacles

612
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:38,000
at stanford research institute in the

613
00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:40,320
1970s that he managed

614
00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:42,159
writes the winning bid that bigelow

615
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:43,600
submits to the pentagon

616
00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:46,480
to quote win unquote reads ufo money

617
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:48,080
yeah yeah wink wink

618
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:50,559
now the doc the involvement of dr putoff

619
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:51,679
in this affair

620
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:53,600
is very important because putoff was the

621
00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:55,520
program director at s

622
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:58,880
sri who ran advanced sensing techniques

623
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,840
remote viewing

624
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:01,679
for the intelligence community

625
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:04,320
specifically the cia

626
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:07,039
interesting folks for decades put off

627
00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:09,279
has worked with the heads of the cia's

628
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:10,159
weird desk

629
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:13,039
first dr christopher kit greene then

630
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:13,600
later

631
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:16,799
dr ronald pendolfi these three men

632
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:20,000
remain in communication today albeit off

633
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:20,640
and on

634
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:21,840
and of course we don't know the full

635
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:24,320
degree of their collaboration because

636
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:27,600
they don't tell us the truth so notice

637
00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:30,000
that the other references flagged by a

638
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,320
simple linkedin check about

639
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:34,159
people have viewed about putoff notice

640
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:35,840
that there's other fringe entities like

641
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:37,200
dr russell targ

642
00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:40,799
okay who also worked with sri at the

643
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:42,640
feld studies

644
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:45,279
their skip atwater yet another alleged

645
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:46,400
remote viewer

646
00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:48,320
in military circles then there's this

647
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:50,159
guy another questionable hire

648
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:52,640
reed's black budget ufo money guy was dr

649
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:53,679
eric davis

650
00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:55,600
who played a vital role in doling out

651
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:56,799
the resources

652
00:25:00,630 --> 00:24:59,039
davis was a key subcontractor who also

653
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:00,640
helped himself

654
00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:03,919
he was among the 46 scientists reid

655
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:04,640
claims

656
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:07,200
were involved and that's comical because

657
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:09,360
davis's role served putoff's

658
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:12,080
interests perfectly since putoff is the

659
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:12,640
founder

660
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,679
and president of earth tech or eti wow

661
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:17,840
what a cute name initials and not

662
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:19,840
surprisingly davis is earth tech's

663
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:22,880
chief science officer wow talk about

664
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:24,559
nepotism

665
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:26,400
couldn't be more obvious could it folks

666
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:28,400
so put off and his close colleague dr

667
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,279
eric davis play key roles in providing

668
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:33,360
seemingly credible smokescreen cover

669
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:36,000
for harry reid's pork ufo project not

670
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:37,039
surprisingly

671
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:39,919
they're working for bigelow this is

672
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:41,279
really bad folks

673
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:42,880
but they were allowed to get away with

674
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:46,080
this so far and it is arguably a crime

675
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:47,840
it is certainly unethical

676
00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:49,840
so when senator john mccain officially

677
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:52,080
inquired about reid's ufo project

678
00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:54,640
he was given a list of what we are told

679
00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:57,039
taxpayers was a scientific papers that

680
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:57,440
were

681
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:00,400
produced as part of a ufo study now when

682
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:02,480
you analyze these papers

683
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:05,440
what a joke there's a lot of suspicious

684
00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:07,200
stuff going on here

685
00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:10,720
so in january 9th 2018 christine

686
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:13,039
capnici who was the chief of the dia's

687
00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:14,240
congressional relations

688
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,159
division informed the senator

689
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:20,080
who wrote that the purpose of atip this

690
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:21,679
pentagon project was to investigate

691
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:23,520
foreign and advanced aerospace weapons

692
00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:24,159
threats

693
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:26,159
from the present out to the next 40

694
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:29,520
years she listed 38 scientific papers

695
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:32,640
that she says were produced by the dia's

696
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:34,720
involvement in the program

697
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,960
and don't laugh folks but these

698
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:38,480
scientific papers are some of the

699
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:40,240
evidence that reed and others claim was

700
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:41,919
collected

701
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:44,960
and in truth these boasts were

702
00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:49,120
hyperbole because again copies of this

703
00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:51,600
letter and this correspondence among

704
00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:52,159
these

705
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:55,360
agencies went to 13 different people

706
00:27:02,230 --> 00:26:58,400
in government and all 13 of these people

707
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:02,240
were being misled these 38 scientific

708
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:03,039
papers

709
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:06,000
weren't worth the scientific or taxpayer

710
00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:07,360
money that was used

711
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:09,440
to pay for them in fact at least one of

712
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:10,960
them had already been published in a

713
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:12,640
magazine already

714
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:14,320
and of course some of them were written

715
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:15,760
by some of the guys who were in charge

716
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:16,640
of oversight

717
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:19,600
that would be davis and putoff my tough

718
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:20,080
gig

719
00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:22,480
if you can get it so despite all of

720
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:23,840
these watchful eyes

721
00:27:27,269 --> 00:27:26,159
all the top politicians none objected to

722
00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:27,279
all of this

723
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:28,960
and it was davis and putoff who put

724
00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:31,200
together this list of 38 credible

725
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:33,679
papers which really weren't and they

726
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:35,120
claimed they received these academic

727
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:37,120
works after soliciting peers across a

728
00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:39,360
spectrum of professions

729
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:41,360
this declassified list of so-called

730
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:42,960
scientific gems

731
00:27:49,029 --> 00:27:46,159
includes papers folks on

732
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:49,039
you know amazing stuff warp drives dark

733
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:50,159
energy and dimensions

734
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:51,840
cockpits in the area of breakthrough

735
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:54,480
flight using organic molecules for

736
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:55,679
automation technology

737
00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:58,159
direct technologies uh controlling

738
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:00,159
external devices in absence of limb

739
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:03,520
operated interfaces quantum computing

740
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:04,880
and

741
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:08,720
on what does this have to do with

742
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:09,840
studying paranormal

743
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:13,120
ufos or any phenomenon

744
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:16,000
he said again putoff's own paper was

745
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:18,080
called advanced space propulsion based

746
00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:21,440
on vacuum space-time metric engineering

747
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:24,399
it's just i don't even know where to

748
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:25,200
begin

749
00:28:29,909 --> 00:28:28,320
of how much of a waste of money this was

750
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:29,919
and of course it was never peer-reviewed

751
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:30,720
and vetted

752
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:34,000
it was put through in a deceptive way

753
00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:34,960
one can argue

754
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:38,480
by put off and davis over these 13

755
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:40,720
different entities in the us government

756
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:41,600
who got this

757
00:28:46,149 --> 00:28:44,240
nonsense and of course putoff's paper

758
00:28:48,789 --> 00:28:46,159
had already been published earlier

759
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:48,799
in um a journal of the british

760
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:50,799
interplanetary society

761
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:53,039
in fact davis himself accounts for five

762
00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:55,440
of the 38 papers traversable wormhole

763
00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:56,240
stargates

764
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:58,240
what does he do watch stargate negative

765
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:00,720
energy anti-gravity laser

766
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,159
lightcraft not all satellites blah blah

767
00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:06,240
blah it just goes on and on folks

768
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:12,870
since it is obvious that hal put off has

769
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:13,520
a long

770
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,840
decades-long actually history of

771
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:17,279
misleading people and

772
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:19,279
engaging in pseudoscience along with

773
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:20,559
some science but

774
00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:22,720
not enough to compensate for the former

775
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:23,600
problems

776
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:25,840
and then eric davis continues to mislead

777
00:29:31,029 --> 00:29:28,159
people as does bhutov

778
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:31,039
the question now becomes what does one

779
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:31,520
do

780
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:34,640
with all of this stuff well

781
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:38,000
ironically bob kiviat came up with a

782
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:38,640
beautiful

783
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:42,960
term to describe this problem

784
00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:47,120
he called it eupholitics ufo

785
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:51,440
l i t i c s you politics and he's

786
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:55,279
right now what

787
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:58,480
is eupholitics what exactly does it mean

788
00:30:02,470 --> 00:30:00,399
well according to bob keviat and he

789
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:02,480
should know since he invented the term

790
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:05,840
defolitics is when

791
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:07,600
so eupholitics is when the u.s

792
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:09,520
government engages

793
00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:12,559
in public activities which deceive

794
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:15,679
the public it's disinformation

795
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:17,760
or it's just stuff that isn't quite true

796
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:19,760
or maybe they're not telling you the

797
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:20,640
truth now

798
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:23,120
but they'll get around to doing it later

799
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:25,360
like the way they use the sr 71

800
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:27,600
blackbird spy plane to fake ufo

801
00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:28,880
sightings never told

802
00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:30,399
project blue book in the air force in

803
00:30:34,149 --> 00:30:32,240
heinek about it and

804
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:34,159
these sightings today are still listed

805
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:35,520
as unknowns

806
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:37,840
in the public knowledge database even

807
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:39,120
though it's not true

808
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:41,360
so again eu politics includes acts by

809
00:30:45,269 --> 00:30:42,960
the government and other governments

810
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:45,279
as well as ufo researchers in the media

811
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:47,279
about how they have handled and covered

812
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:47,679
up

813
00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:51,840
dealing with the subject to the public

814
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:54,240
so what does all of this mean now we can

815
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:56,080
argue objectively that what harry reid

816
00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:57,039
did was wrong

817
00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:59,760
it was not ethical unfortunately it

818
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:01,440
seems to have been legal

819
00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:04,720
well yes and no and this is where

820
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:07,679
the investigation continues as many

821
00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:08,960
people know

822
00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:11,120
last at the last ufo disclosure one

823
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:12,559
event

824
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:15,679
i revealed that i have been in

825
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:18,559
touch with investigators associated with

826
00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:19,600
the u s government

827
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:21,760
and specifically the security and

828
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:23,760
exchange commission

829
00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:27,200
regarding the to the stars academy

830
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:29,120
which of course is an entity which

831
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:30,480
gained a lot of publicity and was

832
00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:32,080
founded around this new series

833
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:33,279
unidentified

834
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:36,000
which is about ufos and of course has

835
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:36,960
hyped

836
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:39,600
the stuff that harry reid and atip and

837
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:41,519
others have done it hypes the ufo

838
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:44,080
subject which is unfortunate because it

839
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:46,799
misleads people into thinking that more

840
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:47,679
is going on

841
00:31:52,149 --> 00:31:50,159
than really is let me give you two quick

842
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:52,159
examples here

843
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:55,679
arts parts investors were told that it

844
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:57,200
was okay

845
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:00,240
for the owners and founders to

846
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:03,360
spend thousands of dollars buying this

847
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:07,840
supposedly exotic arts parts metals

848
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:10,960
those metals were exposed as a hoax

849
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:13,679
in 1997 the lab report was published i

850
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:14,399
know because

851
00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:17,440
i did it myself meaning in my book

852
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:19,120
the roswell ufo crash what they don't

853
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,120
want you to know which remains the

854
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:23,120
best-selling expose to date

855
00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:26,720
on the roswell ufo crash what it did

856
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:29,039
is arts parts is published in there

857
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,640
because art bell himself

858
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:32,720
admitted it was a hoax art bell was

859
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:34,000
hoaxed

860
00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:37,519
so what type of owner

861
00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:40,880
of a company who tries to be credible

862
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:43,919
takes investor money and buys

863
00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:46,559
fake material that was exposed last

864
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:47,679
century

865
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:50,880
just so he can what he's not after the

866
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:51,360
truth

867
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:53,760
if he's implying it's anything else

868
00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:55,440
other than a hoax

869
00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:00,000
and so the effort to engage the sec

870
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:02,559
send legal paperwork back and forth

871
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:03,200
draft

872
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:06,240
stuff it is continuing

873
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:07,840
but of course it's really not going to

874
00:33:11,909 --> 00:33:09,919
pick up steam again until next year i'm

875
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:11,919
sorry to inform you of that but that is

876
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:13,919
just the reality of the situation

877
00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:16,799
thanks of course because of the pandemic

878
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:18,480
but i will keep you informed

879
00:33:22,549 --> 00:33:21,840
as information is worth sharing with the

880
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:22,559
public

881
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:25,679
and major milestones one way or another

882
00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:27,120
because we have no idea how this is

883
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,279
going to go move forward

884
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,440
okay moving on to door number three now

885
00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:33,840
we reveal what is behind this one and it

886
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:34,799
is our first guest

887
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:38,320
melissa martell

888
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:40,080
all right ladies and gentlemen joining

889
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:42,640
me now behind door number three

890
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:44,960
is another special guest her name is

891
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:45,679
melissa

892
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,000
podcast and host of the show

893
00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:54,399
secret door podcast now she has a new

894
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:56,080
show called deprogrammed i've been

895
00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:58,640
on it and it was a real honor to uh

896
00:34:00,789 --> 00:34:00,399
appear on her show and we talked about

897
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:00,799
the

898
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:03,840
infamous edward billy meyer ufo sex cult

899
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:06,720
melissa welcome to real ufo disclosure

900
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:07,120
2.

901
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:08,960
it's an honor to have you here and

902
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:10,399
thanks again for

903
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:12,240
letting me be on your show and to talk

904
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:14,639
about the meyer ufo sex gold

905
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:17,839
well thank you for having me here cal so

906
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:18,800
melissa

907
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:21,040
um you have a program called

908
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:22,240
deprogrammed

909
00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:23,760
why don't you tell everybody what it's

910
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:26,000
about and why it even has that name

911
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:28,159
what's the significance

912
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:31,679
well the program podcast is a podcast

913
00:34:36,310 --> 00:34:33,200
where i'm talking about

914
00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:36,320
cults and all different type of cults

915
00:34:40,629 --> 00:34:39,040
and we touch on the occult in human

916
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:40,639
consciousness as well i keep some of

917
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:42,079
those elements there

918
00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:45,200
and it was sort of a it's an evolution

919
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:47,119
from the secret door podcast which was

920
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:47,520
more

921
00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:51,599
paranormal and i think in dealing with

922
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:53,839
paranormal i i came to realize that

923
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:55,119
there was a lot of

924
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,160
cult activity happening online

925
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:00,560
and that i wanted to edge more into

926
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:03,520
something that was more solid

927
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:06,720
information and research and dealing

928
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:10,000
with you know real human

929
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:12,400
personality disorders and behaviors that

930
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,119
were

931
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:15,680
actually taking place online and in the

932
00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:16,480
real world

933
00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:18,240
and that would actually be helpful to

934
00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:20,480
people you know information that

935
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:22,720
would serve a purpose and it's called

936
00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:25,119
it's called deprogrammed because

937
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:26,960
we're i'm trying to put out information

938
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:28,160
there with my guests

939
00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:30,480
that goes contrary to how people are

940
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:32,720
generally programmed to think

941
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:34,640
and that includes myself because i get

942
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:36,560
to learn everything as well so

943
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:38,400
the idea that you you are actually

944
00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:40,720
learning and programmed by a cult so we

945
00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:44,560
i decided you know deprogramming is what

946
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:47,200
you know people who help people who are

947
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:48,880
getting to cults too now i'm not a

948
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:50,640
professional i don't have

949
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:53,520
a psychology degree or anything but it's

950
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:54,000
just

951
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:55,520
the idea that the information that we're

952
00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:58,640
telling people can help them be aware

953
00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:01,440
okay well it's a very interesting angle

954
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:02,400
but i want

955
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,160
our listeners to be clear and i know

956
00:36:07,589 --> 00:36:06,320
yours are but for people watching this

957
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:07,599
event here

958
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:09,200
especially for those who are seeing you

959
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:10,800
for the first time

960
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:13,920
your program deprogrammed isn't just

961
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:16,320
about the paranormal you attack or

962
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:17,520
handle cults

963
00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:20,480
of all kinds nothing's off limits right

964
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:21,040
yeah and

965
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:23,599
i i mean it's not the the podcast is not

966
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:25,200
even about the paranormal really anymore

967
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:26,800
that's not the feature it is

968
00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:28,960
mostly about cults i put human

969
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:31,280
consciousness in there because it's it's

970
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:33,280
interesting to look at psychology and

971
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:35,280
i don't mind people who are really

972
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:37,040
highly critical of paranormal stuff to

973
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:37,680
come on

974
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:39,760
and talk about theories and different

975
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:41,119
ideas they have

976
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:44,160
but i i want it to be more specific

977
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:47,520
rather than just anybody come on so

978
00:36:52,270 --> 00:36:50,400
it's it's mostly about cults and that's

979
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:52,280
religious cult political cults

980
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:55,680
educational things um it can

981
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:59,040
be online social media cults i mean

982
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:01,359
almost you could you could even i've

983
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:03,280
even had experiences at jobs where they

984
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:04,079
operated

985
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:06,839
in a very cult fashion so it could go

986
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:08,079
anywhere

987
00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:11,599
before the recent wendell stevens book

988
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:13,920
there was the coronavirus book that i

989
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:14,880
was working on

990
00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:17,440
and melissa has agreed to publish it

991
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:19,520
which is wonderful

992
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:21,280
and what we're going to do she mentioned

993
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:23,599
technology is bring new technology

994
00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:25,839
to the book meaning okay you might say

995
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:28,000
well why is this book important

996
00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:29,920
it doesn't matter who the author is i

997
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:32,079
think the approach is important

998
00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:34,160
at least in my view i've tried to do it

999
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:36,240
this way so what i'm going to turn into

1000
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:38,240
you melissa is a book that basically

1001
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:40,160
hunts down the who what where why when

1002
00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:40,800
how

1003
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:45,920
unleashed in china deliberately it was

1004
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:47,760
not an accident was deliberate

1005
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:50,720
malicious intent so basically we were

1006
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:52,160
nuked with a

1007
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:55,359
virus so we were virus bond they knew

1008
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:56,480
what they were doing

1009
00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:58,000
and then of course everything that they

1010
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:59,520
covered up what they don't want you to

1011
00:38:01,829 --> 00:38:01,040
know so it's kind of similar to roswell

1012
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:01,839
in the sense but

1013
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:04,240
different subject and i'm sorry i talked

1014
00:38:16,829 --> 00:38:05,280
so long here

1015
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,270
book

1016
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:21,839
so real quickly share with our audience

1017
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:23,200
uh recently you

1018
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:25,839
dipped your toe into the billy meyer ufo

1019
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:26,560
sex cult

1020
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,920
pond yeah um i was on your show thanks

1021
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:31,440
for inviting me and we talked about the

1022
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:32,000
billy meyer

1023
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:34,320
ufo sex cult and i shared some inside

1024
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:35,760
stuff that i had never really talked

1025
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:36,720
about before

1026
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:38,400
a lot of people know those stories but

1027
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:40,800
just never talked about them on the show

1028
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:44,160
what was your reaction to what you heard

1029
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:45,520
because it was all live we didn't

1030
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:47,440
rehearse anything we don't do that

1031
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:49,040
we do it unscripted which i think is

1032
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:50,800
great and thank you but what was your

1033
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:51,440
reaction

1034
00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:56,320
co-followers who

1035
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:59,359
love you and and you can explain what

1036
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:00,320
they

1037
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:02,880
have done or not done or stand by folks

1038
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:04,079
it might change again

1039
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,720
you mean my reaction to it like to the

1040
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:07,839
interview

1041
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:10,320
no just whatever the whole thing or

1042
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:11,040
whatever

1043
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:14,480
you know well i mean i

1044
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:17,280
i think the whole i mean i think it's

1045
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:18,240
really obvious

1046
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:21,760
i i let me rephrase this

1047
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:23,440
i think it's really strange that anyone

1048
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:25,440
would believe anything about this meyer

1049
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:26,000
ufo

1050
00:39:31,829 --> 00:39:29,440
i mean the images are terrible

1051
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:31,839
and i can understand maybe a little

1052
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:34,320
empathy back in the day if people were

1053
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:36,079
you know thought oh wow it's really

1054
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:38,160
happening but i it's just

1055
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:40,880
it for people to still believe that all

1056
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:43,760
this time later with all the technology

1057
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:46,640
it makes no sense to me um so it was

1058
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:48,400
really enlightening to hear

1059
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,599
how you went in there and i i

1060
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:53,119
i wouldn't have been i don't even know

1061
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:54,640
if i would have been able to go into a

1062
00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:55,359
cult so it was

1063
00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:58,000
really good to hear how you went in

1064
00:40:02,790 --> 00:39:59,520
there and what you discovered

1065
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:02,800
and how you went at it and wrote about

1066
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:03,359
it and

1067
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:06,640
how people you know things were

1068
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:08,800
are pretty weasely underneath all cults

1069
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:10,960
as most people know

1070
00:40:16,309 --> 00:40:14,000
and i mean as for the reaction to it it

1071
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:16,319
was um

1072
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:19,280
i mean it had a lot has like 41 upvotes

1073
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:20,560
it's got probably almost

1074
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:22,480
500 views within a few days on the

1075
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:24,000
youtube channel so that's pretty good

1076
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:27,760
but it also had got caught the reaction

1077
00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:28,400
of

1078
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:31,839
cult

1079
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:35,040
namingly oh

1080
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:38,800
namingly um michael horn oh yes good old

1081
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:40,319
mikey horn

1082
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:43,520
and yeah i don't know if

1083
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,040
they're all the same person there's

1084
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:48,000
multiple people contacting the podcast

1085
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:50,960
and when i seen like four or five emails

1086
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:51,520
and then

1087
00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:53,599
lots of posts on the instagram i thought

1088
00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:55,760
okay this is um interesting

1089
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:57,760
and it was all attacking you cal of

1090
00:41:01,430 --> 00:41:00,240
course you're a liar and you're fraud

1091
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:01,440
you're a psychopath

1092
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:04,319
you're a lunatic uh it just went on and

1093
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:05,760
on and on and like

1094
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:07,520
i've known cal for a while i'm pretty

1095
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:08,880
sure he's not any of those

1096
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:13,280
things and the emails were

1097
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:15,359
that there was emails from michael horn

1098
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:16,720
and then there was emails from this

1099
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:17,280
other

1100
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:20,319
andrea whether or not that's meant

1101
00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:22,400
i don't know if it's the same person or

1102
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:24,400
many people but

1103
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:26,720
i went and looked on facebook and there

1104
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:27,599
was a

1105
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:30,480
post on and this andrea lady things

1106
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:32,960
where she basically was outlining people

1107
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:36,960
look kalkorf is talking again about mike

1108
00:41:43,589 --> 00:41:40,160
about billy meyer we need to go he

1109
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:43,599
and show what a liar he is and people

1110
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:45,040
were talking in the comments and she

1111
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:46,480
says no our our focus

1112
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:49,280
isn't kalkwarf we're targeting the host

1113
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:49,680
and

1114
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:51,359
we're going to make her have billy meyer

1115
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:52,800
on the show so there was all

1116
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:54,960
this go around of harassing and i got

1117
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:56,400
another harassing email

1118
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:58,640
i got like tons of them okay wait wait

1119
00:42:01,829 --> 00:41:59,440
stop stop

1120
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:01,839
you're saying that they said they want

1121
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:03,520
billy meyer on your show

1122
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:06,960
sorry no michael horn oh michael

1123
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,160
no no i see should i say that

1124
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:12,240
well no no it's okay i just wanted to be

1125
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:13,359
clear because i was going to say if

1126
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:14,240
billy meyer

1127
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:17,280
offers to be on your show

1128
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:20,720
i should have yazzie has kept him from

1129
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:23,040
michael horn from debating me and

1130
00:42:26,950 --> 00:42:24,880
chickening out the last time on steve

1131
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,960
steven cambion show you should go for it

1132
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:28,640
but if it's mikey horn

1133
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:30,319
you just need to tell these bozos the

1134
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:32,240
truth that they need to keep their prior

1135
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,040
commitment

1136
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,440
to appear as they agreed to all the

1137
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:37,599
parties did on stephen campion show

1138
00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:39,359
keep their word first then we can all

1139
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:41,119
come on melissa's show and

1140
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:43,760
you know have crumpets there you go yeah

1141
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:45,119
no it wasn't um

1142
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:46,800
um billy meyer sorry they want me to

1143
00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:48,720
have mike horn on my show

1144
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:50,720
and well unfortunately the way they went

1145
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:52,800
about it is not how i would go about

1146
00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:54,960
if i wanted to go on someone's podcast

1147
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:56,240
and so

1148
00:43:01,190 --> 00:42:57,440
you know and they were calling me a

1149
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:03,270
i'm like you know i don't really want to

1150
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:04,480
talk to you now

1151
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:07,040
but um they've just sent me a letter

1152
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:08,240
saying we're breaking up

1153
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:11,520
and so they sent okay so let me get this

1154
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:12,800
straight they're calling you

1155
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:15,119
a slime bucket which is really spiritual

1156
00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:16,000
right

1157
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:17,920
that's very spiritual we have to agree

1158
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:19,839
about that and then they are breaking up

1159
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,640
with you what was

1160
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:22,240
now they're three days later they're

1161
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:24,000
breaking up with me my it doesn't make

1162
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:26,480
it none of the emails make any sense so

1163
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:29,280
i i it's just i'm a slime bucket i need

1164
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:30,720
to have you on the show you're ignoring

1165
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:32,720
my emails then they would post stuff on

1166
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:34,800
youtube comments she's ignoring the

1167
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:36,880
emails there was post after post

1168
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:39,440
and then there was a couple other emails

1169
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:40,000
one with

1170
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:42,319
them from an unknown email address that

1171
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,040
they used

1172
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:45,520
um a website that gives you a temporary

1173
00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:46,319
email

1174
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:49,119
and it said something like you know it

1175
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:49,440
was

1176
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:56,000
something about it's not silent when

1177
00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:57,599
things fall or it was some kind of

1178
00:44:01,510 --> 00:43:58,240
ominous

1179
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:01,520
title and i was like okay whatever

1180
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:04,000
i was like whatever you guys are lame

1181
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:04,800
and then

1182
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:07,440
i just put in my email so nobody from

1183
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:08,000
that site could

1184
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:10,880
ever contact me again and then today i

1185
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:12,800
received um

1186
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:14,640
heartbreakingly i received a breakup

1187
00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:16,240
letter kell

1188
00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:19,680
break up letter from who from andrea

1189
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:21,680
the one who was sending people after me

1190
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:23,200
i don't even know if it's

1191
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:25,200
i could all be the same person with

1192
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:26,640
multiple things but yeah they're

1193
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:27,760
breaking up

1194
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:31,760
andrea

1195
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:34,319
likely not her real name by the way on

1196
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:36,240
on twitter i also posted why don't you

1197
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:38,079
use your real name next time

1198
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:39,760
there's ip addresses these guys are

1199
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:41,920
idiots plus there's other ways to see

1200
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:43,760
people hiding i know they don't know

1201
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:46,079
that but anyway um

1202
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:48,560
they're very spiritual to call you what

1203
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:49,599
they do

1204
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:52,560
and you know it's typical mikey horn the

1205
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:52,800
mo

1206
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:54,480
he's that's why you know there's a

1207
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:55,839
volume coming out called

1208
00:45:01,589 --> 00:44:59,520
you know dr jekyll mr horn it fits him

1209
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:01,599
there is i it's coming yeah i'm gonna

1210
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:03,119
show it you know

1211
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:07,599
so anyway well um i'm glad that you know

1212
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:10,480
it worked out okay meaning this went on

1213
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:11,280
shorter than

1214
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:12,720
other people have had to endure the

1215
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:15,119
harassment but it's nice that the world

1216
00:45:18,309 --> 00:45:15,839
can see

1217
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:18,319
that they do harass people that this is

1218
00:45:22,630 --> 00:45:19,280
a cult

1219
00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:22,640
telling the truth

1220
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:24,640
they wouldn't be doing any of this

1221
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:27,119
exactly and i i did a rebuttal podcast

1222
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:27,839
and i

1223
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:29,920
stated that reading the podcast i

1224
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:31,440
basically did a

1225
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:34,560
tell them off podcast

1226
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:37,119
follow up okay so what we're going to do

1227
00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:38,960
now while melissa sits there for a

1228
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:39,599
moment

1229
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:41,359
we're going to put up on the screen the

1230
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:43,040
web links to her

1231
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:45,520
stuff where you can hear all this stuff

1232
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:46,480
now tell

1233
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:47,520
people what they're going to hear

1234
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:49,280
briefly there's what two episodes there

1235
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:50,880
was original thing then your

1236
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:53,440
follow-up reaction yeah there is the

1237
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:54,400
kalkorf

1238
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,079
interview where we talk about his

1239
00:46:01,349 --> 00:46:00,640
your undercover investigation in the

1240
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:01,359
billy mayer

1241
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:03,520
and then there was another episode

1242
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:05,760
called flying monkeys

1243
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:07,839
because that's what they are whether

1244
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,280
it's one person

1245
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:11,280
pretending to be lots or there are

1246
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:12,720
multiples that's called

1247
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:14,960
sending out flying monkeys so that's

1248
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:17,680
what the rebuttal one is called

1249
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:20,160
good for you good for you and as you can

1250
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:21,440
see on the screen folks there's the

1251
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:22,960
links go ahead and click on them

1252
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:24,560
please join the group there's no cost or

1253
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:26,480
obligation and

1254
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:29,359
melissa i really thank you and uh we'll

1255
00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:31,200
see you soon for everything for the

1256
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:33,119
upcoming online store which we'll talk

1257
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:35,040
about a little bit later in this program

1258
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:37,119
and of course uh keep collaborating and

1259
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,359
hopefully do some really great stuff

1260
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:41,280
thank you for having me thank you

1261
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:48,390
okay joining us now behind door number

1262
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:48,960
four

1263
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:51,680
is our next surprise and it's this one

1264
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:53,040
it's called ufology

1265
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:55,520
or eufooligy now you may say what's a

1266
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:56,240
big deal

1267
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:58,000
i've heard a little bit about this where

1268
00:47:02,470 --> 00:46:59,680
is it what's going on

1269
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:02,480
again we were ready to launch folks with

1270
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:03,680
the first book

1271
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:05,680
the annie jacobson expose which i'll get

1272
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:07,200
into in a moment

1273
00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:09,680
when the pandemic hit rob mcconnell is

1274
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:11,599
the publisher of volume one

1275
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:13,599
and he's in canada and of course canada

1276
00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:14,720
shut down

1277
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:17,119
he his regular schedule was disrupted

1278
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:18,079
he's now

1279
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:20,319
operating again as much as anyone can

1280
00:47:24,549 --> 00:47:22,160
under the circumstances

1281
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:24,559
but the purpose of ufology or eufooligy

1282
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,359
is very simple

1283
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:27,760
and it's very serious and it's not going

1284
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:29,200
to go away

1285
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:32,000
the purpose of ufology or euphology is

1286
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:32,800
to separate

1287
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:35,760
fact from fiction ufology is a

1288
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:38,079
scientific study of ufo data

1289
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:40,960
period euphuligy is when one makes

1290
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:43,200
statements or conclusions about ufos

1291
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:45,520
which are not derivable from credible

1292
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:46,880
data

1293
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:49,440
so these are the first seven books

1294
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:50,800
you're seeing them for the first time

1295
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:51,680
folks

1296
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:55,599
of the new series ufology or eufooligy

1297
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,119
and we're going to go through each of

1298
00:48:02,390 --> 00:47:59,280
the books we're going to prove

1299
00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:02,400
why they are important while they why

1300
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:04,559
they deliver on their promise of solving

1301
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:06,559
cases and moving on to the next one

1302
00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:08,240
because we're in the hunt for the truth

1303
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:10,000
we don't care what that truth is

1304
00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:13,440
but it is important that we find it

1305
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:17,599
now every ufology euphology book

1306
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:20,640
has in it some basic reminders for the

1307
00:48:23,589 --> 00:48:21,119
public

1308
00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:23,599
because they need to be reminded about

1309
00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:25,119
some truths

1310
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:27,680
that they are not being told by

1311
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:29,440
eupholigists

1312
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:31,119
in other words people who commit

1313
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:32,480
euphology

1314
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:36,000
also commit consumer fraud some of them

1315
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,319
a euphologist is someone again who makes

1316
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:40,319
statements or conclusions that are not

1317
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:43,440
objectively derivable from credible

1318
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:46,160
data okay eupholigists will tell you

1319
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:47,920
they can contact aliens but you gotta

1320
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:48,960
pay them money

1321
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:50,880
buy this photo of this imaginary

1322
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:52,000
palladian chip

1323
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:54,160
that they took although they faked it

1324
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:56,480
okay it's a fake ship not a real one

1325
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:59,040
so the characteristics of a ufologist is

1326
00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:01,119
don't confuse me with facts my mind is

1327
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:02,000
already made up

1328
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,200
they're real just question what planet

1329
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:07,920
demonization belittling opponents

1330
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:09,040
positive negative

1331
00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:11,200
name calling denigration ridicule

1332
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:12,559
mockery

1333
00:49:15,750 --> 00:49:15,119
making ad hominem attacks they judge

1334
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:15,760
people

1335
00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:18,559
they engage in research by proclamation

1336
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:20,000
they ignore or dismiss

1337
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:22,000
relevant facts and go again that go

1338
00:49:25,430 --> 00:49:23,440
against their beliefs

1339
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:25,440
they refuse to admit when they're wrong

1340
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:27,280
and that it's never their fault

1341
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:29,280
they claim that debunkers have a closed

1342
00:49:33,829 --> 00:49:31,520
mind and are not credible even though

1343
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:33,839
the word debunk means to separate bunk

1344
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:36,880
from truth or fact from fiction there's

1345
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:38,880
nothing wrong with debunking

1346
00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:42,960
bunking or bunk means nonsense

1347
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:46,480
so again a euphologist is someone who

1348
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:48,880
makes statements or conclusions about

1349
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:49,920
ufos

1350
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:52,559
that are not objectively derivable from

1351
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:53,359
credible

1352
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:56,559
data now a ufologist

1353
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:58,960
on the other hand is a person who

1354
00:50:03,589 --> 00:49:59,599
studies

1355
00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:03,599
ufo reports scientifically

1356
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:05,760
okay now unfortunately there are many

1357
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:07,760
researchers euphologists who claim that

1358
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:10,000
ufology is a study of ufos

1359
00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:12,960
or the scientific study of ufos no it's

1360
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:13,760
ufo

1361
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:16,800
data because the aliens won't cooperate

1362
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:20,960
assuming they are aliens so once again

1363
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,240
these seven books are coming out

1364
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:26,640
the first two will be available in a

1365
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:27,599
matter of hours

1366
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:30,880
online worldwide they're in the systems

1367
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:31,440
now

1368
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:34,480
okay and we're going to go over them and

1369
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:35,280
explain

1370
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:38,000
why they are important in fact the first

1371
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:38,720
one

1372
00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:40,960
is going to launch at a special event

1373
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:42,079
pretty soon

1374
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:44,559
hosted by rob mcconnell and we'll let

1375
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:46,000
you know the date of that

1376
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:48,800
okay so again this is all behind door

1377
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:49,839
number four

1378
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:52,559
this is annie jacobson's area 51 book

1379
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:53,680
scandal

1380
00:50:57,790 --> 00:50:55,119
and if you want to learn about it you

1381
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:57,800
can go to my website kalkorf.com

1382
00:51:01,589 --> 00:51:00,160
justspellmyname.com and you will see of

1383
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:01,599
course what the book looks like

1384
00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:03,280
it's available in a couple of different

1385
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:06,559
formats a regular book

1386
00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:08,720
as a large format as well as a slide

1387
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:11,359
book it's a new format that we're trying

1388
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:13,839
which is a series of slides that you can

1389
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:14,880
read and view

1390
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:17,280
quickly and if you click on like the

1391
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:18,480
media press kit or

1392
00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:22,000
sample chapters you will actually see

1393
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:24,800
uh screenshots of the beautiful layouts

1394
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:25,440
in the book

1395
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:27,680
how it points out what ufology is versus

1396
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:28,800
euphuligy

1397
00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:30,640
talks about how nazis make a fine

1398
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:31,920
conspiracy

1399
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:34,400
how mengele escaped american custody how

1400
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:36,480
he was never in

1401
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:38,319
with the russians the whole annie

1402
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:40,079
jacobson thing is not true and rob

1403
00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:40,880
mcconnell

1404
00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:43,200
and i will go through that later very

1405
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:45,119
shortly when the book launches on his

1406
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:45,599
show

1407
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:47,760
this is just kind of a teaser of it

1408
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:50,319
again similar data is cited the polls

1409
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:52,800
by researchers showing how americans are

1410
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:55,440
disposed predisposed to conspiracies we

1411
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:56,079
live in a

1412
00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:59,440
conspiracy mindset type society

1413
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:01,200
and then of course the other chapters

1414
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:02,720
present real history

1415
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,280
which tell you the truth versus what

1416
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:07,440
annie jacobson told you or would like

1417
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:08,800
you to believe

1418
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:11,920
about roswell what happened to mengele

1419
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:15,040
the uh doctor who was uh

1420
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:16,720
you know part of the holocaust at

1421
00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:19,200
auschwitz he was the so-called angel of

1422
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:19,760
death

1423
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:22,400
it documents how mangala escaped there's

1424
00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:24,720
some amazing photos in there

1425
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:26,880
because they're all part of history and

1426
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,160
real history

1427
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:30,160
matters folks in fact it is not a

1428
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:32,640
coincidence that the name of this book

1429
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:33,119
series

1430
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:36,720
is called the real history matters

1431
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:38,400
book series they're going to be on

1432
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:40,000
different subjects

1433
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:43,040
ufos roswell famous cases are

1434
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:45,119
the first wave there's going to be other

1435
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:46,240
topics as well

1436
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:48,400
controversial subjects conspiracy

1437
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:49,520
subjects that

1438
00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:51,040
millions of people around the world

1439
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:53,920
believe in especially americans

1440
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:55,520
and that would be like the kennedy

1441
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:56,960
assassination

1442
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:00,000
bigfoot whatever it's all coming out

1443
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:02,880
fully sourced and you don't have to take

1444
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:04,480
our word for it you can

1445
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:06,800
trust but verify you can check the facts

1446
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:07,680
yourself

1447
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:09,520
and the greatest thing about facts as

1448
00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:11,200
i've said many times over

1449
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:13,359
is that anybody can verify them they

1450
00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:15,599
don't care about anybody's opinion

1451
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:17,119
so when somebody tells you that's a real

1452
00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:19,200
photograph of a spaceship

1453
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:21,040
and you see here evidence that proves

1454
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:22,800
it's not there you go

1455
00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:28,319
you have to defer to the facts

1456
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:31,520
volume one of the ufology or eufooligy

1457
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:32,400
series

1458
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:35,599
is a foundational title it exposes

1459
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:37,200
completely and destroys

1460
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:40,000
the false claims of annie jacobson that

1461
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:41,440
she made about roswell

1462
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:44,559
mengele and stalin all working together

1463
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:44,880
to

1464
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:48,000
fake the roswell ufo crash of 1947

1465
00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:50,800
in her best-selling number one book on

1466
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:52,160
area 51

1467
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:53,760
there's even quotes from the scientists

1468
00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:55,200
she interviewed where

1469
00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:57,280
basically they don't have things

1470
00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:58,960
positive to say about her they feel that

1471
00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:00,079
they were deceived they

1472
00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:02,319
were thrown under the bus quote unquote

1473
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:03,280
it's all in there

1474
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:05,440
and then we use real history because

1475
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:07,280
real history matters folks

1476
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:10,319
that's the bottom line to

1477
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:12,960
again destroy her claims and it's

1478
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:14,400
important that they get destroyed

1479
00:54:19,109 --> 00:54:16,880
because if you look at the regular

1480
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:19,119
mainstream media they didn't do it when

1481
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:20,400
her book came out

1482
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:22,000
she was basically treated with kid

1483
00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:25,200
gloves and she was a media darling

1484
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:28,400
and it was disgraceful when anybody i

1485
00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:30,240
don't care who it is but especially an

1486
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:31,280
editor for the

1487
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:33,359
la times supposedly a prestigious

1488
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:34,480
publication

1489
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:36,880
is sitting there talking about how

1490
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:37,520
mengele

1491
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:41,280
worked with stalin to fake roswell

1492
00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:43,119
and alter children so they would look

1493
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:44,559
like aliens and that becomes a

1494
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:46,400
best-selling book and

1495
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:51,119
and and people actually believe that

1496
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:52,880
well that's what happened and that's why

1497
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:55,520
it is exposed and taken out

1498
00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:57,359
as both one of the original roswell

1499
00:55:02,390 --> 00:54:59,440
researchers i know damn well

1500
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:02,400
annie jacobson's account is false her

1501
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:03,520
reporting on it

1502
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:06,559
cannot be true and

1503
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:09,200
again we use real history to destroy it

1504
00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:10,319
now enough about that

1505
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:14,960
let's quickly get on to volume two here

1506
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:17,119
now this is where things really start to

1507
00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:18,880
get very interesting because

1508
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:20,799
not only do we have the seven titles

1509
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:21,920
coming out

1510
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:25,200
but each one gets a little more intense

1511
00:55:30,470 --> 00:55:27,200
if you will on how it proves

1512
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:30,480
its point whether a case is real or not

1513
00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:32,720
take this title here the cia's

1514
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:35,680
conspiracy against wendell stevens

1515
00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:38,160
thanks to people like mikey horn who is

1516
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:40,400
the volunteer spokesman for the

1517
00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:43,599
billy meyer ufo sex cult and fraud

1518
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:46,559
run out of switzerland by ufo sex cult

1519
00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:48,240
leader billy meyer

1520
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:51,359
these this is the guy who was faked over

1521
00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:54,160
a thousand ufo photographs says her from

1522
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:56,559
the pleiades which is not true

1523
00:56:03,349 --> 00:55:59,920
um he's been in contact with them

1524
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:03,359
it's a long story but anyway

1525
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,839
for years for decades the myth has been

1526
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:07,440
that wendell stevens the chief

1527
00:56:12,789 --> 00:56:09,520
investigator for this case

1528
00:56:14,069 --> 00:56:12,799
was framed by the cia and spent seven

1529
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:14,079
years in prison

1530
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:16,319
serving three seven year sentences 21

1531
00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:17,920
years total

1532
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:19,359
the three seven year sentences

1533
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:22,160
concurrently for the crimes of

1534
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:25,440
molesting children who were under

1535
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:28,720
age there were several victims and there

1536
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:30,880
was a prior case that had nothing to do

1537
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:33,760
with the current uh three counts that he

1538
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:35,680
pled guilty to

1539
00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:38,160
so the myth is that stevens was framed

1540
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:39,920
by the cia

1541
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:42,960
but who started the myth in this book

1542
00:56:46,470 --> 00:56:45,680
you find the truth about what really

1543
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:46,480
happened

1544
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:48,880
to wendell stevens for the first time

1545
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:50,160
ever you see

1546
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:52,559
the court files because they're not on

1547
00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:54,079
the internet unless somebody bothers to

1548
00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:55,440
put them there folks

1549
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:57,440
you actually see other letters that have

1550
00:57:02,549 --> 00:56:59,200
never been published before

1551
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:02,559
that identify who the conspirators were

1552
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:06,160
that started the rumors that the cia was

1553
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:07,359
involved in this

1554
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:10,559
in fact a copy of this expose is going

1555
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:11,599
to the cia

1556
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:14,400
once it starts shipping shortly so that

1557
00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:15,359
the cia

1558
00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:17,680
knows what they did or didn't do as well

1559
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:20,000
because it's a big agency

1560
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:23,760
so this book exists to solve

1561
00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:27,200
a series of claims about wendell stevens

1562
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:28,640
being framed

1563
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:31,680
by the cia for felony child

1564
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:34,559
molestation for being forced to go to

1565
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:35,920
prison

1566
00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:38,000
coerced strong-armed whatever you want

1567
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:39,359
to call it

1568
00:57:44,069 --> 00:57:42,319
serving crime time for crimes he says he

1569
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:44,079
didn't commit

1570
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:46,319
so all the letters are in there and the

1571
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:47,680
truth is in there

1572
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:49,200
and who's lying and who's telling the

1573
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:52,720
truth is also solved in there

1574
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:55,599
i encourage you to get the book it is

1575
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:56,559
incredible

1576
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:58,400
in fact the original title of the book

1577
00:58:03,109 --> 00:58:00,480
was the incredible wendell stevens

1578
00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:03,119
but it has been changed now because it

1579
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:03,920
really does

1580
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:07,359
blow open the conspiracy to frame

1581
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:10,799
wendell stevens as claimed by mikey horn

1582
00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:11,440
and others

1583
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:15,520
by the cia everything is fully sourced

1584
00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:18,319
the case is literally closed and you see

1585
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:19,119
material

1586
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:22,559
from that time from the actual criminal

1587
00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:23,040
court

1588
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:26,400
case files that has and surveillance

1589
00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:28,000
stuff that's never been published before

1590
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:29,680
it's here exclusively

1591
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:32,160
for the first time and i'd like to thank

1592
00:58:35,349 --> 00:58:32,799
my

1593
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:35,359
co-author on this project steve cambion

1594
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,000
it was great

1595
00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:38,880
working with him on this uh we can also

1596
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,160
thank mikey horn for this

1597
00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:42,480
because he's the one that started saying

1598
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:44,480
this and we just had to see if it was

1599
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:45,119
true

1600
00:58:50,470 --> 00:58:46,960
and all the facts are in there and mikey

1601
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:50,480
horn can deal with it

1602
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:52,400
okay let's talk about another title real

1603
00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:53,920
quickly this is going to be volume

1604
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:56,240
three so this comes out next after the

1605
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:58,160
wendell stephens title which is out now

1606
00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:59,680
and again we'll be shipping in the next

1607
00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:01,280
couple days as it gets

1608
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:02,880
into the channels here folks it'll be

1609
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:04,960
available everywhere

1610
00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:08,079
this book on the rex heflin case

1611
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:10,559
well i'm hoping that erica luke's who

1612
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:13,440
i've contacted will join me as co-author

1613
00:59:16,950 --> 00:59:15,359
i'm waiting to hear back from her if she

1614
00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:16,960
decides she's going to pass on the

1615
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:18,319
project that's fine

1616
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:20,640
the bottom line is that the case has

1617
00:59:25,589 --> 00:59:22,079
been solved and it's been

1618
00:59:27,349 --> 00:59:25,599
solved because i was the investigator

1619
00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:27,359
who ran the trap between stanton

1620
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:30,559
friedman a bunch of other researchers

1621
00:59:35,750 --> 00:59:32,640
finding the truth about the case taking

1622
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:35,760
each side's arguments for and against it

1623
00:59:39,190 --> 00:59:37,920
and what's interesting is that we also

1624
00:59:41,589 --> 00:59:39,200
have a confession

1625
00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:41,599
for the first time from rex heflin

1626
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:42,559
himself

1627
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:44,720
about how he faked the photos he even

1628
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:46,000
tells you how he did it

1629
00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:48,559
it was remarkably simple there are

1630
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:50,559
lessons to be learned from this expose

1631
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:51,920
which is why

1632
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:55,200
were so many in the ufo field fooled

1633
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,920
by these photos when it was obvious they

1634
01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:59,359
were hoaxes

1635
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:01,920
so erica luke's has some original

1636
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:02,559
material

1637
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:04,720
from the case file of ann druffle who

1638
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,559
passed away recently

1639
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:08,400
and was a friend of hers and a friend of

1640
01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:10,559
mine she knew about my work on the

1641
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:12,480
heflin case because i knew her since i

1642
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:14,319
was in high school

1643
01:00:17,910 --> 01:00:17,040
and hopefully there's material that we

1644
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:17,920
can combine

1645
01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:20,079
with the archive material that i have

1646
01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:22,000
from the original investigations done

1647
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:25,760
in the 1980s and it again comes full

1648
01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:26,720
circle

1649
01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:29,359
and is a nice way to wrap this case up

1650
01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:29,760
and

1651
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:33,040
move on again i'll hear back from erica

1652
01:00:36,309 --> 01:00:34,160
luke's soon

1653
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:36,319
she's a wonderful person a very serious

1654
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:38,000
researcher i was honored to be on her

1655
01:00:40,870 --> 01:00:38,480
show

1656
01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:40,880
and i consider her to be a friend so

1657
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:42,400
we'll come back to the heflin stuff

1658
01:00:49,829 --> 01:00:43,839
later when it launches

1659
01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:51,670
all right now we're gonna really kick

1660
01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:54,880
things up here we get to door number six

1661
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:57,920
the zeta reticuli conspiracy it is the

1662
01:01:03,030 --> 01:00:59,359
book that's going to come out

1663
01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:03,040
unless the time schedule slips that

1664
01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:05,680
definitively solves the betty and barney

1665
01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:06,720
hill case

1666
01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:10,000
of september of 1961. it is not

1667
01:01:13,190 --> 01:01:12,240
a coincidence that this date today was

1668
01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:13,200
chosen

1669
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:16,799
to give everyone the shocking news

1670
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:19,119
now what i'm about to tell you is true

1671
01:01:23,109 --> 01:01:21,359
this is a short version

1672
01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:23,119
and then you're going to have to wait

1673
01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:24,400
for the book to come out

1674
01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:26,720
along with the software and we'll come

1675
01:01:31,829 --> 01:01:28,799
back to that in a moment

1676
01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:31,839
now to make a long story short when i

1677
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:35,599
was 14 years old i wrote a 200 page book

1678
01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:38,319
report on ufos for my 8th grade teacher

1679
01:01:43,349 --> 01:01:40,640
was actually around 216 pages i wrote it

1680
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:43,359
for mr carlson my eighth grade teacher

1681
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:46,319
and the highlight of that book was about

1682
01:02:28,789 --> 01:01:46,640
a

1683
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:28,799
the hills were never south of the

1684
01:02:32,470 --> 01:02:30,240
equator

1685
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:32,480
moreover according to people who believe

1686
01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:33,359
in this

1687
01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:34,880
there are stars visible in the

1688
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:37,280
background which were not discovered by

1689
01:02:41,109 --> 01:02:38,640
scientists until

1690
01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:41,119
years later and of course there's no way

1691
01:02:44,069 --> 01:02:42,880
a housewife who doesn't know anything

1692
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:44,079
about astronomy

1693
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:47,280
could fake all of that now i understand

1694
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:49,680
why people would be excited about the

1695
01:02:52,710 --> 01:02:50,720
hill case

1696
01:02:54,789 --> 01:02:52,720
let's be honest if you claim you're

1697
01:02:57,750 --> 01:02:54,799
abducted and you've got no proof

1698
01:02:59,190 --> 01:02:57,760
it's just a story but if i draw a star

1699
01:03:00,549 --> 01:02:59,200
map and say hey i asked them where they

1700
01:03:02,390 --> 01:03:00,559
were from

1701
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:02,400
and they explained a few things and i

1702
01:03:06,069 --> 01:03:03,920
wrote down what i could remember

1703
01:03:08,069 --> 01:03:06,079
and everybody trusts hypnosis it's never

1704
01:03:09,829 --> 01:03:08,079
erroneous right wink wink

1705
01:03:11,190 --> 01:03:09,839
and i draw it under hypnosis and an

1706
01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:11,200
astronomer looks at it

1707
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:13,599
spends a few years finds some stars that

1708
01:03:16,549 --> 01:03:14,640
match

1709
01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:16,559
and there's technical aspects to this

1710
01:03:22,150 --> 01:03:18,640
map which seemed to validate

1711
01:03:23,349 --> 01:03:22,160
the story that would be really exciting

1712
01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:23,359
stuff

1713
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:25,440
and i was very excited back then as a

1714
01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:26,400
young kid

1715
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:28,240
to see stanton freeman talk about this

1716
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:31,440
case when i first met him in may of 1975

1717
01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:33,280
i'm dating myself

1718
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:35,760
and then of course a year later i'm

1719
01:03:39,029 --> 01:03:36,720
writing about this

1720
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:39,039
for my teacher and i'm throwing all the

1721
01:03:43,430 --> 01:03:40,240
evidence out there

1722
01:03:46,069 --> 01:03:43,440
in a report that mr carlson

1723
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:46,079
you know read to this day you can ask

1724
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:47,920
him about it he's on my facebook page

1725
01:03:53,029 --> 01:03:49,839
ron carlson that's his name former

1726
01:03:56,230 --> 01:03:53,039
teachermind ask him about me

1727
01:03:59,270 --> 01:03:56,240
so what happens is a couple months

1728
01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:59,280
after i finish my report an article

1729
01:04:03,029 --> 01:04:00,160
comes out

1730
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:03,039
by a skeptic named robert shaffer and he

1731
01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:04,000
essentially says

1732
01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:06,240
the hill case is not what it's cracked

1733
01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:07,680
up to be that the map

1734
01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:11,200
has now been destroyed wow

1735
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:14,319
that's a game changer if true and

1736
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:17,200
now there was a problem i read that

1737
01:04:20,710 --> 01:04:18,240
article

1738
01:04:22,230 --> 01:04:20,720
it bothered me a lot so i went

1739
01:04:24,309 --> 01:04:22,240
immediately to my friend stanton

1740
01:04:27,270 --> 01:04:24,319
friedman who was my mentor

1741
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:27,280
and i said stan what about this schaefer

1742
01:04:30,870 --> 01:04:28,400
can't be right

1743
01:04:31,589 --> 01:04:30,880
and you also be right because you're

1744
01:04:34,309 --> 01:04:31,599
saying

1745
01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:34,319
marjorie fish the astronomer verified

1746
01:04:39,430 --> 01:04:34,960
this map

1747
01:04:42,069 --> 01:04:39,440
you state many reasons why but yet

1748
01:04:42,789 --> 01:04:42,079
bob schaefer who knows astronomy is

1749
01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:42,799
saying

1750
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:44,880
nope another astronomer named charles

1751
01:04:49,910 --> 01:04:46,720
atterberg has found a better

1752
01:04:53,270 --> 01:04:49,920
map and the fact he found a better map

1753
01:04:56,470 --> 01:04:53,280
means that the whole map is a roar shock

1754
01:04:59,910 --> 01:04:56,480
and it's not proof of anything

1755
01:05:02,710 --> 01:04:59,920
so stanton friedman unfortunately

1756
01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:02,720
always knew and this is what has proven

1757
01:05:06,470 --> 01:05:03,680
in the book

1758
01:05:09,029 --> 01:05:06,480
that the hill case was not legitimate

1759
01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:09,039
but he made money off of it

1760
01:05:12,950 --> 01:05:12,559
he made his reputation off of it he also

1761
01:05:14,549 --> 01:05:12,960
knew

1762
01:05:16,870 --> 01:05:14,559
that there were parts about the roswell

1763
01:05:19,589 --> 01:05:16,880
ufo crash which were not true

1764
01:05:22,710 --> 01:05:19,599
but he made his money off of it he made

1765
01:05:24,630 --> 01:05:22,720
his reputation off of it

1766
01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:24,640
while criticizing the other side the

1767
01:05:28,390 --> 01:05:26,720
skeptics the debunkers

1768
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:28,400
whose job is a separate fact from

1769
01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:30,000
fiction that's the very definition of

1770
01:05:34,549 --> 01:05:31,440
debunking

1771
01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:34,559
hello of having a closed mind of don't

1772
01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:35,760
confuse me with facts

1773
01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:38,319
it's already made up so what i told

1774
01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:40,000
stanton friedman i would do when i was

1775
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:40,960
in high school

1776
01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:44,319
to get there

1777
01:05:47,990 --> 01:05:46,960
so i said stan i'll run the trap between

1778
01:05:50,230 --> 01:05:48,000
all the parties

1779
01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:50,240
since i'm the neutral guy and i'll find

1780
01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:51,760
out who's telling the truth and

1781
01:05:58,230 --> 01:05:55,200
will expose them and he agreed

1782
01:06:00,230 --> 01:05:58,240
so i spent a whole year

1783
01:06:01,270 --> 01:06:00,240
literally every day every week

1784
01:06:05,109 --> 01:06:01,280
corresponding with

1785
01:06:07,029 --> 01:06:05,119
everybody running down everything

1786
01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:07,039
and after going back and forth between

1787
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:09,359
the parties and throwing everything

1788
01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:12,640
at each other it was clear to me that

1789
01:06:15,829 --> 01:06:13,280
friedman

1790
01:06:16,870 --> 01:06:15,839
was wrong that the hill case

1791
01:06:19,990 --> 01:06:16,880
unfortunately

1792
01:06:23,750 --> 01:06:20,000
was just another story and that the map

1793
01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:23,760
part especially was not credible

1794
01:06:27,589 --> 01:06:26,400
was not credible in fact the

1795
01:06:29,670 --> 01:06:27,599
psychologist who

1796
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:29,680
treated psychiatrists who treated them

1797
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:31,200
the hills said

1798
01:06:34,470 --> 01:06:34,000
point blank that in his opinion it

1799
01:06:36,950 --> 01:06:34,480
wasn't

1800
01:06:38,950 --> 01:06:36,960
a real experience and that barney hill

1801
01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:38,960
himself got much of it from betty

1802
01:06:42,789 --> 01:06:40,559
because she talked her head off and she

1803
01:06:44,470 --> 01:06:42,799
kind of wore the pants in the family

1804
01:06:47,910 --> 01:06:44,480
under certain circumstances she was

1805
01:06:52,390 --> 01:06:50,710
anyway make a long story short i

1806
01:06:53,430 --> 01:06:52,400
corresponded with an astronomer named

1807
01:06:56,789 --> 01:06:53,440
charles atterberg

1808
01:06:59,829 --> 01:06:56,799
the guy who found the other map and

1809
01:07:02,069 --> 01:06:59,839
he's right and then what happened is

1810
01:07:02,950 --> 01:07:02,079
more accurate data became available over

1811
01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:02,960
the years

1812
01:07:10,069 --> 01:07:07,839
from nasa in the form of the hipparcos

1813
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:10,079
satellite which of course was instrument

1814
01:07:14,870 --> 01:07:11,280
which was put up there

1815
01:07:18,230 --> 01:07:14,880
to measure star distances and once you

1816
01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:18,240
punch in the modern data the hill map

1817
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:21,599
explodes even worse okay

1818
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:23,440
and you don't have to take my word for

1819
01:07:28,470 --> 01:07:25,440
it in fact i don't want you to

1820
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:28,480
because here is where a major hollywood

1821
01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:31,280
tv producer who exploits the hill case

1822
01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:33,520
and doesn't tell you the truth i'm just

1823
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:34,960
being blunt here

1824
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:38,160
may want to seriously reconsider his

1825
01:07:44,549 --> 01:07:41,280
approach i'm talking about famed

1826
01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:44,559
hollywood tv producer bryce zabel

1827
01:07:51,029 --> 01:07:48,400
zabel zabel um

1828
01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:51,039
i've reached out and contacted him and

1829
01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:53,920
i've told him he's going to be exposed

1830
01:07:58,470 --> 01:07:57,200
he wrote me back it was months before i

1831
01:08:00,870 --> 01:07:58,480
got back to him

1832
01:08:02,470 --> 01:08:00,880
i wrote him a couple of times i've put

1833
01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:02,480
postings with tagging him in there

1834
01:08:06,390 --> 01:08:04,160
saying it's coming

1835
01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:06,400
well it is i hope he's watching this

1836
01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:07,520
video or somebody

1837
01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:10,079
will tell him it's coming i don't really

1838
01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:12,160
care what his reaction is

1839
01:08:17,910 --> 01:08:15,599
he and nobody can argue with what i'm

1840
01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:17,920
about to reveal now

1841
01:08:22,309 --> 01:08:20,880
you see i was in india a few years ago

1842
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:22,319
when stanton friedman

1843
01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:26,560
optioned to bryce his movie

1844
01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:29,920
captured this is after stan knew

1845
01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:32,960
that he was not going to live much

1846
01:08:35,590 --> 01:08:34,000
longer

1847
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:35,600
he could see the light at the end of the

1848
01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:37,600
tunnel and knew it wasn't coming

1849
01:08:45,189 --> 01:08:41,359
from the sun this time so what he did

1850
01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:45,199
is he has given every indication that he

1851
01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:46,000
just

1852
01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:47,600
pushed this thing and there was a

1853
01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:49,920
willing bryce to soak it up and pay

1854
01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:52,560
whatever money and now

1855
01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:54,560
bryce claims he's in development of this

1856
01:08:58,950 --> 01:08:56,719
movie you're seeing here

1857
01:09:01,430 --> 01:08:58,960
called captured and of course it's going

1858
01:09:02,950 --> 01:09:01,440
to say the case is true because bryce is

1859
01:09:05,269 --> 01:09:02,960
a ufo belieber

1860
01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:05,279
he believes in the mythical mj-12

1861
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:06,000
documents which

1862
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:08,640
have been completely exposed they're a

1863
01:09:11,669 --> 01:09:10,400
fraud and i know that from firsthand

1864
01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:11,679
experience because i knew

1865
01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:13,920
stanton friedman we warned him we tried

1866
01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:15,279
to tell him he was being played

1867
01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:17,279
he wouldn't listen we went public with

1868
01:09:20,630 --> 01:09:18,719
that last century

1869
01:09:21,910 --> 01:09:20,640
you can't take that out of history

1870
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:21,920
because real history

1871
01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:24,960
matters so when i'm in india

1872
01:09:32,229 --> 01:09:28,319
working as a journalist for daily post

1873
01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:32,239
newspaper i was livid when stan sold out

1874
01:09:35,189 --> 01:09:34,159
like this because it's like man can't

1875
01:09:37,349 --> 01:09:35,199
you even go out

1876
01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:37,359
with some dignity i'm sorry you've got

1877
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:38,640
so many people believing

1878
01:09:42,309 --> 01:09:41,520
in myths like roswell mj12 the whole

1879
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:42,319
dark skies

1880
01:09:47,910 --> 01:09:45,359
bs it just like

1881
01:09:49,829 --> 01:09:47,920
that's it so i told him i was going to

1882
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:49,839
make a movie called the zeta reticuli

1883
01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:53,920
conspiracy and expose it

1884
01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:55,920
but i thought you know i don't want to

1885
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:57,440
do a simple documentary i'm kind of

1886
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:59,040
bored with those i've done them before i

1887
01:10:02,790 --> 01:10:00,560
did a documentary for

1888
01:10:04,630 --> 01:10:02,800
a discovery channel secrets of area 51

1889
01:10:05,110 --> 01:10:04,640
revealed it proved that bob lazar and

1890
01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:05,120
others

1891
01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:08,159
are liars and frauds there's no captured

1892
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:10,719
aliens and pickle jars at area 51 it's

1893
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:11,600
[\h__\h]

1894
01:10:17,030 --> 01:10:14,800
okay and um

1895
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:17,040
so i start making this movie and what i

1896
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:18,640
decided to do was this

1897
01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:21,280
make it a fictionalized semi-true

1898
01:10:26,470 --> 01:10:22,800
account meaning

1899
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:26,480
i play myself years later overweight

1900
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:30,000
washed up victim of uh abusive divorce

1901
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:32,560
marriage marriage fraud all that which

1902
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:33,360
is of course

1903
01:10:36,870 --> 01:10:35,440
not far from the truth you can just ask

1904
01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:36,880
her in india she'll

1905
01:10:43,510 --> 01:10:40,159
verify if you can find her but anyway

1906
01:10:46,470 --> 01:10:43,520
um and i meet these women who are

1907
01:10:48,070 --> 01:10:46,480
fashion models and i was a judge in that

1908
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:48,080
contest and one believes in the hill

1909
01:10:50,229 --> 01:10:49,600
case and one doesn't believe in the hill

1910
01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:50,239
case

1911
01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:52,080
and they have this bet and i'm in the

1912
01:10:54,229 --> 01:10:53,440
middle i'm friends with both i get to

1913
01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:54,239
know them both

1914
01:11:00,709 --> 01:10:57,840
and i tell them uh who's going to

1915
01:11:01,750 --> 01:11:00,719
and who's gonna lose the bet and through

1916
01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:01,760
that process

1917
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:03,760
as we become friends they discover

1918
01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:05,199
things about each other we discover

1919
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:07,360
things about one another and

1920
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:09,040
the audience learns the truth about the

1921
01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:10,960
hill case

1922
01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:13,280
and what we did is as part of a package

1923
01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:14,560
we put

1924
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:17,520
the uh first and second place winners

1925
01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:19,679
for these beauty contests that were done

1926
01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:21,440
by creativators

1927
01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:24,320
wonderful incredible um indian

1928
01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:25,360
entrepreneur

1929
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:27,120
he's one of the hardest working people

1930
01:11:33,030 --> 01:11:29,280
i've ever met his name is prashant

1931
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:33,040
uh and i'm sorry i always mangle his

1932
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:34,080
last name

1933
01:11:37,510 --> 01:11:35,760
he always goes he also goes under the

1934
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:37,520
name prashant sharma he owns

1935
01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:39,280
creativators

1936
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:42,159
and the lead actress for this project

1937
01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:43,440
the original one was

1938
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:46,320
upma sharma and i want to give a shout

1939
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:48,000
out to her because i'll tell you

1940
01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:50,080
i'd work with her in a heartbeat again

1941
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:51,760
she was such a professional she was

1942
01:11:56,630 --> 01:11:54,400
always on time always knew her lines

1943
01:11:57,750 --> 01:11:56,640
and all i can say is some of the others

1944
01:12:00,229 --> 01:11:57,760
were not that way

1945
01:12:00,790 --> 01:12:00,239
but she was just top and it was just

1946
01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:00,800
really

1947
01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:04,960
incredible so what i'm going to do now

1948
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:07,120
is i'm going to show just a couple more

1949
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:08,320
images here where

1950
01:12:14,709 --> 01:12:12,400
i show you the star map and i show you

1951
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:14,719
how it looks with the modern hipparcos

1952
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:16,400
data which you'll notice is different

1953
01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:17,040
from the

1954
01:12:21,510 --> 01:12:19,199
marjory fish data but rather than get

1955
01:12:22,870 --> 01:12:21,520
into all that technical stuff

1956
01:12:25,510 --> 01:12:22,880
what i'm going to do is show you a

1957
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:25,520
couple of scenes from the movie the zeta

1958
01:12:29,669 --> 01:12:26,800
reticuli

1959
01:12:31,590 --> 01:12:29,679
conspiracy which has been changed again

1960
01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:31,600
because what happened is i left india

1961
01:12:36,070 --> 01:12:33,840
we didn't finish production but we

1962
01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:36,080
finished at least this part of it

1963
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:38,480
and i will be contacting prashant to

1964
01:12:41,750 --> 01:12:39,360
propose how

1965
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:41,760
this gets finished because i'll be doing

1966
01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:43,360
some talking in front of the camera to

1967
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:43,840
explain

1968
01:12:47,510 --> 01:12:45,840
why we did it this way some of the

1969
01:12:49,750 --> 01:12:47,520
history that went on

1970
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:49,760
and more importantly the original files

1971
01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:51,520
from charles atterberg

1972
01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:54,480
which we corresponded with in the 70s

1973
01:12:57,990 --> 01:12:56,239
that stanton friedman held and saw

1974
01:13:00,390 --> 01:12:58,000
the evidence there that the fish map or

1975
01:13:01,750 --> 01:13:00,400
that the hill star map was not credible

1976
01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:01,760
are all there and they're all going to

1977
01:13:05,910 --> 01:13:03,920
be published in this new book

1978
01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:05,920
including any correspondence or answers

1979
01:13:10,149 --> 01:13:07,520
from bryce

1980
01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:10,159
because it's time to hold somebody

1981
01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:11,120
accountable for

1982
01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:14,239
misleading the public on this case now

1983
01:13:17,189 --> 01:13:14,880
bryce is

1984
01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:17,199
on medium i'm on medium and there's no

1985
01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:18,800
way that this stuff

1986
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:21,600
is not going to come out in fact we're

1987
01:13:25,990 --> 01:13:23,600
just waiting for some software

1988
01:13:27,910 --> 01:13:26,000
to get released and then this will come

1989
01:14:29,500 --> 01:13:27,920
out and it will change everything

1990
01:17:27,750 --> 01:14:41,810
[Music]

1991
01:17:31,189 --> 01:17:27,760
ah i'm tired you know what happened

1992
01:17:32,149 --> 01:17:31,199
i read this book oh great that you are

1993
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:32,159
footing

1994
01:17:36,470 --> 01:17:34,030
i mean that is amazing

1995
01:17:39,910 --> 01:17:36,480
[Music]

1996
01:17:43,270 --> 01:17:39,920
but i believe in your fault

1997
01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:43,280
i don't why not because nothing has been

1998
01:17:46,790 --> 01:17:44,000
proven yet

1999
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:46,800
so something must be there to believe i

2000
01:17:51,669 --> 01:17:48,640
believe

2001
01:17:53,910 --> 01:17:51,679
this book says itself it's true

2002
01:17:56,229 --> 01:17:53,920
are you mad if someone will say this is

2003
01:17:58,550 --> 01:17:56,239
true then you'll believe

2004
01:18:00,470 --> 01:17:58,560
well yes but you should read the book

2005
01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:00,480
then judge it

2006
01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:03,600
right so you don't believe it i believe

2007
01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:05,440
in facts more

2008
01:18:10,470 --> 01:18:08,560
but yeah this book has also been

2009
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:10,480
but there is difference between claiming

2010
01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:13,840
something and you know effects

2011
01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:17,120
but i don't think there's authors lying

2012
01:18:21,830 --> 01:18:18,560
i'm not saying that they're lying it's

2013
01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:21,840
like they could be wrong

2014
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:24,159
let's make a bet you know you have good

2015
01:18:27,030 --> 01:18:25,520
experience of loading the bed all the

2016
01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:27,040
time come on i don't

2017
01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:29,360
okay tell me what's the bet yeah simple

2018
01:18:33,910 --> 01:18:31,280
silly

2019
01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:33,920
first read the book didn't judge it

2020
01:18:38,070 --> 01:18:35,040
believe it

2021
01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:38,080
okay cool done yeah justly yeah

2022
01:18:58,090 --> 01:18:40,159
oh i need to make an important call i'll

2023
01:18:58,100 --> 01:19:05,110
[Music]

2024
01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:07,110
hi uh do you mind if i ask you a

2025
01:19:17,030 --> 01:19:15,110
okay i couldn't help but overhear

2026
01:19:18,570 --> 01:19:17,040
your conversation with your friend so

2027
01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:18,580
you made some kind of bet

2028
01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:20,159
[Music]

2029
01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:23,199
yes she'll lose don't worry well i'm not

2030
01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:23,760
worried

2031
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:26,080
i just think she's going to win the bat

2032
01:19:29,669 --> 01:19:26,880
let me guess

2033
01:19:30,709 --> 01:19:29,679
you don't believe in ufos are you

2034
01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:30,719
american

2035
01:19:40,630 --> 01:19:39,600
some do some don't depends on the person

2036
01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:40,640
everybody's different

2037
01:19:45,110 --> 01:19:42,239
[Music]

2038
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:45,120
so why do you think she win the bet

2039
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:47,440
because i know one of the authors

2040
01:19:57,189 --> 01:19:49,120
of that book on the betty barney hill

2041
01:20:02,070 --> 01:20:00,070
i'm also very familiar with the case i

2042
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:02,080
know all about it

2043
01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:04,560
how do you know let me ask you a

2044
01:20:09,350 --> 01:20:06,159
question uh

2045
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:09,360
what's your name upma

2046
01:20:15,990 --> 01:20:12,880
okay uma in hindi means dish

2047
01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:16,000
yeah yeah

2048
01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:17,440
okay so what do you do for a living

2049
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:20,159
what's your focus i'm a model

2050
01:20:24,709 --> 01:20:22,960
you're a model okay so let me get this

2051
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:24,719
straight you're a model

2052
01:20:30,830 --> 01:20:28,000
named upma so that means you are a tasty

2053
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:32,709
yeah yeah

2054
01:20:35,830 --> 01:20:34,000
your parents named you very well you're

2055
01:20:37,990 --> 01:20:35,840
very beautiful why you guys

2056
01:20:39,510 --> 01:20:38,000
always tell the woman that you are

2057
01:20:41,669 --> 01:20:39,520
beautiful

2058
01:20:43,030 --> 01:20:41,679
well some men play that game but when i

2059
01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:43,040
say that a woman is beautiful

2060
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:45,679
i really mean it and let me tell you why

2061
01:20:49,669 --> 01:20:46,080
yeah

2062
01:20:53,669 --> 01:20:49,679
go ahead okay i believe

2063
01:20:56,709 --> 01:20:53,679
this is my honest opinion that women are

2064
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:56,719
the top life form on the planet

2065
01:21:01,590 --> 01:20:58,880
now think about history all right

2066
01:21:05,510 --> 01:21:01,600
seriously you have people like hitler

2067
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:05,520
stalin genghis khan they killed millions

2068
01:21:08,550 --> 01:21:06,639
of people

2069
01:21:10,310 --> 01:21:08,560
all right there's never been a female

2070
01:21:11,669 --> 01:21:10,320
hitler there's never been a female

2071
01:21:14,470 --> 01:21:11,679
stalin

2072
01:21:15,430 --> 01:21:14,480
women are superior to men because they

2073
01:21:17,990 --> 01:21:15,440
can have children

2074
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:18,000
they give life they don't take it life

2075
01:21:21,910 --> 01:21:20,159
to a man is like an abstract concept

2076
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:21,920
it doesn't grow inside them they don't

2077
01:21:24,870 --> 01:21:23,280
nurture it

2078
01:21:26,470 --> 01:21:24,880
they don't they're not able to do the

2079
01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:26,480
things that women do and they don't have

2080
01:21:31,350 --> 01:21:28,080
that perspective

2081
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:31,360
so i believe women are here at the top

2082
01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:33,760
then you have apes and chimpanzees

2083
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:34,639
number two

2084
01:21:38,070 --> 01:21:36,960
then you have dolphins and then you have

2085
01:21:44,629 --> 01:21:38,080
men

2086
01:21:46,390 --> 01:21:44,639
all the wars would stop there'd be a lot

2087
01:21:47,250 --> 01:21:46,400
less killing a lot less violence that's

2088
01:21:48,950 --> 01:21:47,260
my honest opinion

2089
01:21:56,229 --> 01:21:48,960
[Music]

2090
01:21:59,270 --> 01:21:58,229
so if you want to know about the hill

2091
01:22:01,910 --> 01:21:59,280
case

2092
01:22:02,390 --> 01:22:01,920
give me a call all right and we'll get

2093
01:22:05,590 --> 01:22:02,400
together

2094
01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:05,600
and i'll tell you all about it i promise

2095
01:22:20,709 --> 01:22:18,709
you don't gonna believe it what's

2096
01:22:21,510 --> 01:22:20,719
happening what happened a man come here

2097
01:22:23,830 --> 01:22:21,520
and he

2098
01:22:25,750 --> 01:22:23,840
left me a card and you know what he

2099
01:22:29,350 --> 01:22:25,760
knows about it all he'll escape

2100
01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:29,360
and i'm gonna call him uh-huh whatever

2101
01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:32,080
kalkhoff senior manager special advisor

2102
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:32,639
to md

2103
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:38,000
journalist whatever

2104
01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:39,840
so now you've seen a couple of scenes

2105
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:41,280
from the first

2106
01:22:44,870 --> 01:22:43,120
rough filming of the zeta reticuli

2107
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:44,880
conspiracy and the original plot

2108
01:22:49,510 --> 01:22:47,600
that i had come up with to you know make

2109
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:49,520
it more interesting than being a

2110
01:22:53,350 --> 01:22:52,159
dry ufo documentary of interest only to

2111
01:22:56,390 --> 01:22:53,360
ufo fans

2112
01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:56,400
wanted it to be of interest to everybody

2113
01:22:59,910 --> 01:22:58,320
but let's talk about the star map what

2114
01:23:02,310 --> 01:22:59,920
you're seeing here again

2115
01:23:03,910 --> 01:23:02,320
is the hill map with the accurate

2116
01:23:06,149 --> 01:23:03,920
hipparcos data

2117
01:23:08,229 --> 01:23:06,159
but it's not to scale so don't think

2118
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:08,239
that this vindicates anything because it

2119
01:23:11,510 --> 01:23:09,440
doesn't

2120
01:23:13,270 --> 01:23:11,520
but what you will see which is an

2121
01:23:14,470 --> 01:23:13,280
exciting project that we're working on

2122
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:14,480
now

2123
01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:16,880
is we are going to be using artificial

2124
01:23:21,189 --> 01:23:17,840
reality

2125
01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:21,199
to bring the hill star map to life

2126
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:23,440
and let me give you an illustration here

2127
01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:24,719
of how we can use

2128
01:23:29,510 --> 01:23:27,920
ar to do this before i

2129
01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:29,520
show you that in a few seconds here

2130
01:23:33,750 --> 01:23:31,600
because this is really exciting stuff

2131
01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:33,760
i'm also going to show you here the

2132
01:23:37,990 --> 01:23:35,280
brief bio

2133
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:38,000
of my partner roy neal from neil

2134
01:23:41,830 --> 01:23:39,120
research labs

2135
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:41,840
who's working with me on this we're long

2136
01:23:45,669 --> 01:23:43,120
time former apple

2137
01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:45,679
clarus employees and we used to be

2138
01:23:49,110 --> 01:23:46,800
roommates together

2139
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:49,120
in fact roy neal worked with me on my

2140
01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:49,840
first

2141
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:51,760
undercover investigation to go in and

2142
01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:54,480
bust the billy meyer ufo sex cult

2143
01:23:58,790 --> 01:23:57,040
he worked with me to do the models in

2144
01:24:00,310 --> 01:23:58,800
fact he let that part of it

2145
01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:00,320
and we went up in the hills of the bay

2146
01:24:03,270 --> 01:24:02,320
area with helium balloons and we test

2147
01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:03,280
flew

2148
01:24:08,550 --> 01:24:06,320
the first objects to and models to

2149
01:24:09,830 --> 01:24:08,560
create a proof of concept and it worked

2150
01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:09,840
we later took those models of

2151
01:24:12,470 --> 01:24:10,639
switzerland

2152
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:12,480
went to the same locations billy meyer

2153
01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:14,400
did to make his fake ships

2154
01:24:19,110 --> 01:24:17,520
and everything was just fine so

2155
01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:19,120
what is going to happen is we're going

2156
01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:21,040
to use ar technology

2157
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:23,920
to bring the contents of the books to

2158
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:24,719
life

2159
01:24:28,870 --> 01:24:26,880
and we can do that with certain cases

2160
01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:28,880
okay and it will be

2161
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:30,400
the hill case to be one of them you'll

2162
01:24:34,870 --> 01:24:32,560
be able to see the star map

2163
01:24:35,910 --> 01:24:34,880
in your living room walk around it

2164
01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:35,920
interact with it

2165
01:24:41,669 --> 01:24:39,199
see it pop off the page just exactly

2166
01:24:42,830 --> 01:24:41,679
like i'm showing you right now only

2167
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:42,840
we're going to use

2168
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:45,760
dinosaurs instead of stars

2169
01:25:10,830 --> 01:24:47,840
when you get the hillbook you'll have

2170
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:50,870
hmm

2171
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:53,189
so yes folks this is real what we're

2172
01:25:56,629 --> 01:25:54,000
going to do

2173
01:25:57,110 --> 01:25:56,639
is simply put qr codes inside our books

2174
01:25:59,030 --> 01:25:57,120
that will

2175
01:26:01,189 --> 01:25:59,040
activate a process when you aim your

2176
01:26:04,229 --> 01:26:01,199
smartphone at some of our

2177
01:26:06,070 --> 01:26:04,239
interactive titles and then ar

2178
01:26:07,590 --> 01:26:06,080
will spring up off the pages come to

2179
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:07,600
life in your living room on the books

2180
01:26:11,110 --> 01:26:08,800
whatever

2181
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:11,120
and it can be anything and the reason

2182
01:26:13,430 --> 01:26:12,719
i'm showing you this image here is

2183
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:13,440
because

2184
01:26:16,870 --> 01:26:16,239
our first full ar project is going to be

2185
01:26:19,430 --> 01:26:16,880
this

2186
01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:19,440
future edition here where we're going to

2187
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:21,280
recreate the trent photos

2188
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:22,960
and find out whether they're real or not

2189
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:25,360
we have a team roy neil is part of it

2190
01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:27,600
i'm part of it one of the the third

2191
01:26:31,030 --> 01:26:29,360
original roswell researcher is part of

2192
01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:31,040
it and dr bruce mcabee

2193
01:26:35,110 --> 01:26:32,800
has agreed to be part of it we're going

2194
01:26:37,590 --> 01:26:35,120
to input all that data into the computer

2195
01:26:38,470 --> 01:26:37,600
create a virtual reality artificial

2196
01:26:41,669 --> 01:26:38,480
reality

2197
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:41,679
reconstruction of the famous uh trent

2198
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:43,920
photos and we will be able to find out

2199
01:26:47,990 --> 01:26:44,719
if they're real

2200
01:26:49,750 --> 01:26:48,000
or not and how we do that is

2201
01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:49,760
using something like this these are

2202
01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:51,199
actual tests

2203
01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:54,400
that we did out in the parking lots and

2204
01:26:58,229 --> 01:26:55,600
this is where you're

2205
01:27:00,790 --> 01:26:58,239
able to walk under the dinosaurs because

2206
01:27:03,270 --> 01:27:00,800
they've been scaled up to full scale

2207
01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:03,280
so whether it's a large object far away

2208
01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:04,800
with a big tree back there

2209
01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:07,840
whatever the scene is we can recreate it

2210
01:27:11,990 --> 01:27:08,320
all

2211
01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:12,000
and these are proof of concepts of this

2212
01:27:16,550 --> 01:27:14,880
using different pieces of software

2213
01:27:17,910 --> 01:27:16,560
different types of models

2214
01:27:19,830 --> 01:27:17,920
we've got everything from models of

2215
01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:19,840
buildings to

2216
01:27:23,590 --> 01:27:22,000
places you name it and we'll be making

2217
01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:23,600
them based on 3d scans

2218
01:27:32,229 --> 01:27:26,960
as well so we believe

2219
01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:32,239
that applying this ar technology

2220
01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:35,199
forensically scientifically to cases is

2221
01:27:39,830 --> 01:27:36,159
a breakthrough

2222
01:27:42,550 --> 01:27:39,840
subject

2223
01:27:44,310 --> 01:27:42,560
you know it was a kennedy reconstruction

2224
01:27:46,149 --> 01:27:44,320
of the zubruder film in 3d on the

2225
01:27:47,830 --> 01:27:46,159
computer that helps solve that murder

2226
01:27:50,310 --> 01:27:47,840
for example

2227
01:27:51,430 --> 01:27:50,320
but again look at this here we can scale

2228
01:27:53,110 --> 01:27:51,440
up if you walk

2229
01:27:54,790 --> 01:27:53,120
out in the trent photo and see a small

2230
01:27:57,350 --> 01:27:54,800
model above a ladder

2231
01:27:58,149 --> 01:27:57,360
you know it wasn't real but if you see a

2232
01:28:01,270 --> 01:27:58,159
large object

2233
01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:01,280
tens of meters away then you know

2234
01:28:04,310 --> 01:28:02,960
that there's no evidence the case is a

2235
01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:04,320
hoax

2236
01:28:08,070 --> 01:28:06,800
so we're excited by this and nobody's

2237
01:28:10,709 --> 01:28:08,080
doing it and even if

2238
01:28:11,590 --> 01:28:10,719
people rush now to go do it it isn't

2239
01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:11,600
going to matter

2240
01:28:14,790 --> 01:28:13,840
because the science is going to stand

2241
01:28:18,229 --> 01:28:14,800
under peer

2242
01:28:21,350 --> 01:28:18,239
review and when it is peer reviewed

2243
01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:21,360
by credible scientists regardless of the

2244
01:28:25,669 --> 01:28:23,360
conclusion everybody wins

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and that's what matters what matters is

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to find

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the truth now one other thing too that's

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coming

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our online store and this store is going

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to be

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fantastic for example if you go to

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01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:37,440
collectors

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01:28:41,270 --> 01:28:40,719
you can buy mugs that tell you about ufo

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01:28:45,510 --> 01:28:41,280
cases

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or subjects and when you add hot water

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01:28:49,110 --> 01:28:47,199
they change and tell you the truth so if

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01:28:50,629 --> 01:28:49,120
you see a billy meyer photo a ufo photo

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01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:50,639
and you think it's real

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01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:52,239
once you put hot water or liquid in

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01:28:55,830 --> 01:28:53,760
there it'll change and show you the

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01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:55,840
string or whatever it was that

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01:29:01,350 --> 01:28:59,040
made it a hoax fully sourced and indexed

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01:29:02,709 --> 01:29:01,360
and you can go check the websites one

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last piece of news

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i'm happy to announce that beau cortez

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will be joining us

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as part of our team he is mr voice he is

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the voice of the audio books that are

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01:29:16,790 --> 01:29:14,480
coming out that we will be releasing

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01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:16,800
this is beau here there's so much coming

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01:29:20,709 --> 01:29:17,679
folks

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01:29:22,229 --> 01:29:20,719
i just can't reveal it all and of course

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01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:22,239
there's a lot in the pipeline but this

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is a short preview of what's coming out

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01:29:27,110 --> 01:29:26,159
for this round and of course what will

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be in the channel

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available for sell and purchase in the

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next couple of days